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		<title>By: Library: A Round-up of Reading &#124; Res Communis</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chuck Black</title>
		<link>http://ipinspace.com/2012/09/12/patenting-orbits-its-all-part-of-the-process/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Near as I can tell, the specifics of IP litigation in the shoe industry does not effect the overall points that Johanna Blakley was making in her presentation regarding the larger fashion industry in much the same way that the existence of the open source software industry doesn&#039;t directly reflect on the litigious nature in other segments in the software industry.

As we both know, the point Blakely was making is that non IP focused industries are generally larger, healthier and more creative than industry segments with stronger IP protection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Near as I can tell, the specifics of IP litigation in the shoe industry does not effect the overall points that Johanna Blakley was making in her presentation regarding the larger fashion industry in much the same way that the existence of the open source software industry doesn&#8217;t directly reflect on the litigious nature in other segments in the software industry.</p>
<p>As we both know, the point Blakely was making is that non IP focused industries are generally larger, healthier and more creative than industry segments with stronger IP protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Rush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chuck! I agree that some members of the software and record industries aggressively defend their respective patent rights and copyrights, but there are certainly portions of the fashion industry that are at least as litigious, if not more so, than software giants. Design patents on shoes, for example, have historically been litigated at a rate seven times higher than any other category of design. http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2007/09/design-patent-l.html

And I agree with you that our patent and copyright laws are a way to spur innovation, not necessarily the way. In the US, our patent and copyright system is built on the Constitution (Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8), but there are likely plenty of ways to carry out this power. 

Personally, I believe it is important to consider how much litigation is actually going on when debating the effectiveness of our current system. Even in light of cases like Apple v. Samsung, it turns out that only around 1-2% of patents are ever actually involved in litigation! http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2011/12/patents-litigation-and-reexaminations.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chuck! I agree that some members of the software and record industries aggressively defend their respective patent rights and copyrights, but there are certainly portions of the fashion industry that are at least as litigious, if not more so, than software giants. Design patents on shoes, for example, have historically been litigated at a rate seven times higher than any other category of design. <a href="http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2007/09/design-patent-l.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2007/09/design-patent-l.html</a></p>
<p>And I agree with you that our patent and copyright laws are a way to spur innovation, not necessarily the way. In the US, our patent and copyright system is built on the Constitution (Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8), but there are likely plenty of ways to carry out this power. </p>
<p>Personally, I believe it is important to consider how much litigation is actually going on when debating the effectiveness of our current system. Even in light of cases like Apple v. Samsung, it turns out that only around 1-2% of patents are ever actually involved in litigation! <a href="http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2011/12/patents-litigation-and-reexaminations.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.patentlyo.com/patent/2011/12/patents-litigation-and-reexaminations.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Black</title>
		<link>http://ipinspace.com/2012/09/12/patenting-orbits-its-all-part-of-the-process/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be a good time to point out that not every industry (or country) is quite so patent happy as (for example) the software industry or the record industry. 

Patent laws are just another form of laws that we can change, modify and erase at our leisure, depending on what we perceive of as being best for the larger industry.  

Check out this video on the fashion industry for an example http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be a good time to point out that not every industry (or country) is quite so patent happy as (for example) the software industry or the record industry. </p>
<p>Patent laws are just another form of laws that we can change, modify and erase at our leisure, depending on what we perceive of as being best for the larger industry.  </p>
<p>Check out this video on the fashion industry for an example <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/johanna_blakley_lessons_from_fashion_s_free_culture.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rush</title>
		<link>http://ipinspace.com/2012/09/12/patenting-orbits-its-all-part-of-the-process/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Rush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chuck! Exactly! So there are many patents addressing using orbital &quot;pathways&quot; for accomplishing stuff like telecommunications, but no patents on the GEO orbit itself!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chuck! Exactly! So there are many patents addressing using orbital &#8220;pathways&#8221; for accomplishing stuff like telecommunications, but no patents on the GEO orbit itself!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Black</title>
		<link>http://ipinspace.com/2012/09/12/patenting-orbits-its-all-part-of-the-process/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mmm...  

I&#039;d suggest that an orbit is simply a pathway and not a &quot;new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof.&quot;

My understanding of pathways is that they are not patentable. 

After all, the first interstate highways did not ever patent the paths the highways were placed upon. While a new pathway to a new destination might indeed become accessible (where it wasn&#039;t before) by using a new man-made process which may indeed be patentable (as in the case of deep diving submarines able to explore more and more of the oceans) the paths themselves have always been there and are a part of nature. 

And thus not patentable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm&#8230;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest that an orbit is simply a pathway and not a &#8220;new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof.&#8221;</p>
<p>My understanding of pathways is that they are not patentable. </p>
<p>After all, the first interstate highways did not ever patent the paths the highways were placed upon. While a new pathway to a new destination might indeed become accessible (where it wasn&#8217;t before) by using a new man-made process which may indeed be patentable (as in the case of deep diving submarines able to explore more and more of the oceans) the paths themselves have always been there and are a part of nature. </p>
<p>And thus not patentable.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Rush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Stephen! Thanks for the comment! Orbits definitely skirt closer to the laws of nature exception than, say, boat lifts. I expect that, as commercial industry pushes into space, we&#039;ll see a lot more patents related to tricks for reducing or borrowing the necessary energy to change orbits, among the million other technologies that we&#039;ll uniquely adapt to space operations, like 3D printers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen! Thanks for the comment! Orbits definitely skirt closer to the laws of nature exception than, say, boat lifts. I expect that, as commercial industry pushes into space, we&#8217;ll see a lot more patents related to tricks for reducing or borrowing the necessary energy to change orbits, among the million other technologies that we&#8217;ll uniquely adapt to space operations, like 3D printers!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Murphey (@stephenmurphEy)</title>
		<link>http://ipinspace.com/2012/09/12/patenting-orbits-its-all-part-of-the-process/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen Murphey (@stephenmurphEy)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting perspective...never thought about patenting an orbit. I always thought it would fall under &quot;Laws of Nature&quot; but I can see how an specific maneuver could be patentable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting perspective&#8230;never thought about patenting an orbit. I always thought it would fall under &#8220;Laws of Nature&#8221; but I can see how an specific maneuver could be patentable.</p>
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